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Coffee & Grit 7. Be Afraid, But Do It Anyway

Updated: Dec 16, 2021


 

Today Lindsey and Jon discuss the power of doing things that scare you. Highlights include: -Small steps, full submersion. -Conditioning yourself for things that scare you. -Bravery: Being afraid but doing it anyways.

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Lindsey

Hello and welcome to Coffee & Grit. I'm Lindsey Mayo with Jonathan Mayo. How are you today?


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Jon

I'm doing well. How are you?


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Lindsey

I'm good. It's chilly today. Yesterday was warm. Today is cold called.


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Jon

My bearded freeze.


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Lindsey

Yeah. As in yesterday was like a high of 65 and today is 20 degrees currently. So it's cold.


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Jon

I'd say it's not warm.


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Lindsey

I'm aware you'll never agree with me on the standpoint, and it's OK that it is what it is. So we have been discussing, you know, different topic lines and trying to kind of keep with us segmented flow. But I kind of threw a wrench in our plan this morning because we were going to talk about something different


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Lindsey

. And I've been thinking about this thought. It's to be afraid and do it anyways. And I have that exact phrase with some really pretty flowers as a background on my phone, and I have had it as a background on my phone, probably for three years now.


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Lindsey

So every day I get to see that and it's a good reminder to walk into your fear. And that could be anything, right? Like, it doesn't have to be extreme fear. I'm not saying that you need to do that, but kind of even pulling on from Jeremiah Sullivan is that the the idea of doing something you're bad


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Lindsey

at, like with his success Fridays or Saturdays.


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Jon

Suffering Saturday, suffering Saturdays.


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Lindsey

You call him sacrifice. So that's that's spare. So suffering.


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Jon

From Mondays? Yeah, anything.


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Lindsey

Fun? Yeah. But like pick a day of the week and choose to do something that either scares you in a sense like this is a big, monumental task you never thought you could do like run five miles or run a mile or do something you're not good at.


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Lindsey

I say running because I'm not good at running, but I I subject myself to running multiple times a week because I want to be better at it. And then there's other things, right? Like Bake a thing of bread.


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Lindsey

Bread is pretty daunting in the baking world. So like, if that's something that you always wanted to do or it scares you, it, then it also requires you to do this time you have to kind of backtrack in your time succession for the day, right?


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Lindsey

You have to put more thought into it. And I know that does seem like they're simple tasks, and you could really apply this to genuinely anything like, right? You could start writing if that's something that scares you or that you know you're afraid of will write more.


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Lindsey

Because the more times that you practice, the more times that you do something, the better you get at it. And then the fear has no no hold on you. You, you basically are telling it no over and over and over because you're going to continually do it and you're going to continually walk into that.


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Jon

And that's how you condition, and that's how you teach yourself to be brave. Right? Like what I love about what you're sharing is it's all very actionable, obtainable things that you can do on a daily basis, you know, write more, bake something, go for the run or choosing to do those things that are daunting at first and


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Jon

building skills in them and facing them head on. Doing them anyways gives. It helps equip. I think the conditioned response to that, when the bigger decisions need made, you're in the position to make them, well, not and not be influenced negatively by fear, but be able to make the right decision despite fear.


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Lindsey

And yeah, you can really look at all sides of that equation. Yeah, absolutely.


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Jon

Yeah. Because ultimately, bravery is not the absence of fear, but the choice to act despite it.


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Lindsey

Right, right.


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Jon

You know, I think about. When you look at the choice to move and leave a community you've known or leave an industry that someone's worked in or be part of, a family were like, I'm leaving an industry or things like that, right?


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Jon

Regardless of what those bigger changes look like, if you've not conditioned it in the baking of bread, in the running, in the in the things that you choose each day to push yourself into, just seize the day and do it anyways, then it definitely leaves a lot on the table.


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Lindsey

Yeah, it does. And then you can even look at it from like a child's perspective. We force our kids into all sorts of situations that they're scared of or they don't want to be a part of. We tell them to go make friends on the playground, right?


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Lindsey

That concept of like, go have fun, make friends, kind of because you're like trying to encourage them to be away from you. But at the same time, how many times do you walk into a situation, a room of something, and then you're like, Yeah, let's go make friends.


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Jon

No, I struggle with that.


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Lindsey

I mean, most people, most people will not find a friend by the end of that. What a conference that, you know, meeting or whatever. If you have to engage, it's normally like, Well, we'll talk around the table and then we'll go our separate ways.


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Lindsey

It's not. It's not like, Yeah, let's go play together. Let's go do something. A lot of people don't walk into a bar and go, sit next to the person and just go start talking to somebody, or they walk into a restaurant or a pilates class, and maybe more so in a gym setting.


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Lindsey

But I know that if I were, if someone was going to try to work out with you in a gym setting, there's not a chance that you would necessarily talk to somebody else. It's very rare, very rare chance that you're going to want to be bothered at the gym.


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Jon

Oh, I just like to do the task at hand, right?


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Lindsey

But that's my point. You're not going to go into like our realm of a playground and go make friends necessarily.


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Jon

I mean, maybe that's a little tangential, but I do agree that for the way I see the gym is, it's their second execute task. Not a social opportunity, right? And I think people see that differently. But that's why I created gym on the Iron Ranch so that we don't have to deal with that.


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Lindsey

Right? Plus, we're.


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Jon

A bit of a distance from gyms here.


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Lindsey

Well, yeah, that's fair. But that's not the tangent I'm trying to go down. My point is is like, even when you release your kids to go to a playground, what's the first thing our boys do?


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Jon

You know, and they go and say hi to the other kids they.


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Lindsey

Do or they go and they climb the highest point of the playground.


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Jon

That's more realistic. Yeah, that is absolutely true. They only say hi if the kids are out to the highest point in the playground, right?


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Lindsey

So our kids, like we've forced them, not forced them. We've encouraged them, genuinely encourage them into situations of of fear for them and go, it's not that bad. Once you get to where your fear says you can't be.


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Jon

one that lessons been learned through some pain to. So I'm thinking right now, Nathaniel, we were at a soccer practice. A few years back, Nathaniel was climbing the highest thing they had, and it was like this very peculiar child's toys, essentially just like a ladder that went straight up.


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Jon

And then that was it was just like.


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Lindsey

Yeah, some playgrounds I have, I have some thoughts on them.


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Jon

That was the that was the toy. So it's like the 67 foot ladder that you just climb up and then you climb back down. So he climbs up and he thinks he can fly. So he says, Daddy, and he jumps to me.


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Jon

Now here's the thing with zero pause, I'm 30 feet away watching from from the side of the park.


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Lindsey

You were near Eric.


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Jon

I don't like to hover, right? And I'd rather sit and observe the kids and let them gain some autonomy. So he turns around, says daddy smiles and jumps, and I see it in slow motion. He plummets, hits the ground, breaks his collarbone.


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Jon

Right. And what's interesting in that situation is he failed in that situation. He fell and broke himself. But situations don't have meaning. They have implications, right? There are consequences, but those consequences don't have meaning. We assign the meaning to them.


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Jon

So we are able to use that opportunity to say, Well, what did you learn? What are you going to do next? And what's different? You should climb higher but not jump off the top unless you have a means of getting down safely.


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Jon

Right?


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Lindsey

I don't know if he's learned that lesson genuinely.


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Jon

But when we talked through it.


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Lindsey

I think he's a little bit more weary of jumping off the top of the highest thing, right? Hopefully. I don't mean to be determined. Yeah. The thing is a little bit of an outlier, but that's true. You know, like our kids will go climb the highest thing.


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Lindsey

But if we've used a language to cause them to be fearful, they're less likely to do it. So we've always gone, Yeah, go ahead. Right. There have been many times when they've melted down at the top of it and then we go, OK, but you got up there.


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Lindsey

How can you get down? And then once you start invoking logic and you have to start thinking through that process, it starts to overwhelm your fear because you're like, Well, I can either stay up here and be stuck, which is going to feed into your fear that much more or you have to go, OK, but there are


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Lindsey

ways to get down.


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Jon

Well, I know what you're talking about is conditioning yourself or in our in this instance, our children for for risk, right? Because there's a reason you're afraid. There's a reason. There's fear, it's legitimate.


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Lindsey

Yeah.


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Jon

It's because it's risky. There can be a cost like. Nathaniel broke his collarbone in this instance, and the point is you can use these situations to condition yourself to have a stronger, healthier, more resilient response to risk and therefore live more broadly.


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Jon

Right, right.


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Lindsey

And I think you and I like to have high risk. We're probably a what's considered a high risk couple because we're we're not used to taking risk, but the risk doesn't we? We weigh the the risk, but it's not necessarily one of those things where the risk is 100% going to stop us.


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Jon

No, I don't think so.


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Lindsey

That's what I'm saying, like we weigh the risk and there are times when we're like, Oh, it's not worth the risk. And then there's other times like this risk is worth it. We think that on the other side of this, it will be better.


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Jon

Well, it's you know, I'm glad you brought that up. It's not that I think that you're advocating damned the risk do it anyways. I think it's more that it's a planning consideration.


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Lindsey

Yeah, you have to logically.


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Jon

It's not to do that. It's not a you can't do it. It's just a planning consideration. So like, evaluate it, make the appropriate plans based upon it and then do it right.


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Lindsey

Right. But you have to also genuinely weigh the good that comes out of taking the risk and not just focus on the bad from the West risk, because that's that afraid part, right? Because fear is very powerful. And when you are afraid and you when you are fearful, it can take over your logic systems and it can


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Lindsey

absolutely almost paralyze you to the aspect that you will not move forward and it's just easier to walk away from it and not do it. But you also don't know that if you walk through that, fear what's on the other side.


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Lindsey

What do you personally gain? What do you mentally gain? Not even just like the pride and things like that that come with that, but what on the other end of it? Did you gain? Hmm. And I think that that's where it's like, OK, well, obviously, yes, as adults, we have to weigh our risks.


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Lindsey

I'm not going to go tell everybody, go skydiving, even though I really want to. Sarah Walker, you, you take me, but I think that you have to be able to be willing to do it.


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Jon

Mm-Hmm. It's a value proposition, right? Yeah. You're weighing the pros and cons. Yeah. And then don't let the fear cripple you in overweight the negativity.


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Lindsey

Correct. Yet to be afraid and still to it anyways. Mm hmm.


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Jon

Is there anything that you right now are doing that in practicing that thought, this concept in.


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Lindsey

Everything that I'm currently doing? Yes. So I the podcast is something that is absolutely fearful for me because I struggle with having a sense of value to add in general. So this is something that's difficult for me, but I do think that the more times we do it, the the, you know, the better quote unquote we get


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Lindsey

at it. Or the more you start thinking in different patterns and by better we get at it. I mean, it's like our conversation flows better and just different, like on that aspect of things.


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Jon

That's true. We improve the quality, correct?


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Lindsey

Yes. And then the other things that I'm doing right now I'm looking at are taking a course on some things that I know little about, but I'm going to be really diving into that a lot more. And just little things like you and I are starting a business.


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Lindsey

So we're not starting a business but really trying to ramp up the business that we have in theory and the value that's there. And maybe in a partnership in supporting you. And those are all things that require more for me and the fear for me.


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Lindsey

I actually wrote about it a while ago that I'm fearful of success and I get that. That sounds absolutely asinine and crazy. Explain why now put it in a blog, because I actually have it all written out. But it's interesting because I realize that I do a lot of high speed things and I get to the point


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Lindsey

where I see it going to be successful. And then I just stop, and I've noticed that it's a pattern, which is why I've chosen to push into our business and chosen to push into the podcast and these different things.


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Lindsey

So this is me pushing through a different level of fear for me because it's not even necessarily just pushing into doing these things, it's pushing through it right and seeing it to fruition. And I've realized that I do.


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Lindsey

I do a lot of these things to be very successful, and then I go, I'm OK, I'm good, and then I dip out and everyone's like, What in the world happened? And I make all sorts of different excuses for it.


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Lindsey

And I've realized that it's a different pattern now. I don't do that at everything. It's just been in some things of I've tangents that I've kind of gone down with myself or patterns or whatever you want to call it.


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Lindsey

But I think that there's value in pushing through it. And that's something that I'm actively doing right now. And I you didn't know, I didn't know blindsided you.


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Jon

You know, it's funny because when we're having these conversations right now, after the last one for Coffee & Grit, I was like, I need to do a much better job being in the support role for your show Coffee & Grit, right?


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Jon

And the other thing, as you're transferring and try to make this a business, this is a short boomerang. It's going to come back. It's so easy to miss what you're truly aiming for in a pursuit, right? And the type of conversation we're having this morning is true north.


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Jon

The reason that we want to have these conversations across the spectrum of the grit theory and becoming a way maker, and all of that is to have powerful conversations that change our lives. And from the overflow of that, we can and we can hopefully encourage others as well.


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Lindsey

Right? Yeah, that's the target.


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Jon

Not the number of views, not anything else. It's so easy when you're investing tens and hundreds of hours into something to start looking at the metrics and being discouraged or over valuing them when in reality, screw the metrics it's about.


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Lindsey

It's weighing the success.


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Jon

It's weighing our metrics of defined success.


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Lindsey

Right, exactly.


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Jon

Which is value added conversation. So to sit across from you and learn that you scuttle your your efforts, that you see things are going to begin ramping up in that that's an area you freak out and you terminate it.


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Jon

That's one incredible self-awareness, too. It's wonderful. You're taking personal responsibility and ownership of that. And the reason that's cool is number three, you're here pushing beyond that. And as your partner in this venture and in life, I'm incredibly grateful that you have taken the time to become aware of that one.


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Jon

And I don't know what what's wrong with me with lists today, but on the one hand, you become aware of that. And on the other hand, you're doing something about it because I need you to show up beyond those fears and we need each other in this capacity.


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Jon

So I'm grateful and definitely not blown away by that so well.


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Lindsey

And I think that there are things that I've always, you know, desire defined in a values setting where our marriage is is a value, right? So that that is something that I will always push through the fear to push further into because you and I matter.


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Lindsey

And same with the boys. So that's something that I know, you know, that's another value on. And so things that scare me or I'm fearful of with that I want to continue to push into you. I want to continue to push in, you know, so you kind of go down your values list, too.


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Lindsey

And that really makes it different. But these to me, like the podcast and blogging and, you know, posting on my Instagram are just different things like that where people are like, You really need to start this or you should absolutely do this.


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Lindsey

You do this amazingly. And I'm like, Oh, yeah, OK. Mainly, it's because I'm fearful of the work that's required of me, but I also hyper focus on things. And so if I am going to push into that, it means something else somewhere has to give.


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Lindsey

And so I then have to go back into this balance of, OK, what am I willing to push further into and how am I willing to to readjust this time commitment this time frame? And these types of things, because right now our boys are currently in school, so that's fantastic.


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Lindsey

But it's also made me realize that it's not an infinite thing. We could absolutely at any point go back into homeschooling if we see fit. So I also need to be in my head. I can't have my day 100% scheduled around me right now because if at any moment we do decide to homeschool, it means I then


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Lindsey

that matters. Their education absolutely matters, which is a whole nother level of fearful nonsense, by the way. But you still have to push into it because their education matters. And so it's that type of thing, right? So it's a balance.


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Lindsey

It's not. It's you have to weigh these things. So in my mind, that one is is probably the forefront of it right now. I'm filling the gaps of where I would be homeschooling them and trying to be like, OK, if you know and I go down my ifs and I go down my scenarios and all these different


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Lindsey

things, and I won't, I'll spare y'all the thought process, but I'm very cognizant of that and those choices. So I don't want to fill a 100% of my day where it revolves around just me and what my pursuits are or our pursuits are and these different things, because that would become a full time job as well.


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Lindsey

Educating them and doing that, I can't just let them play. All day. You know, they're no longer in that phase of things, necessarily. So that's where it's difficult as well. So I I know that I still have to push through these things.


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Lindsey

They currently are in school. So how do I maximize these hours? But then also just stay in the back of my mind. Like if this needs to shift, how do I not drop these things because they've become important?


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Lindsey

We've pushed through the fear of them, and I want to see them through success.


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Jon

Well, I think. But one of the fears that really keeps people from starting is the how am I going to balance this if right?


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Lindsey

And and you don't know unless you try it more.


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Jon

You don't know if you unless you're trying, you're in your, you're gambling, even starting something on a potentiality that's not realized. You're right, you're wasting energy on something you have no idea is going to happen. If, when or how so?


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Jon

I definitely relate to that because a lot of these things, it's frightening to think, how will I balance this if this happens? If that happens, it's OK. What's not? And I can do it now. And if we cry, we run into that issue.


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Jon

We can figure out how to adjust in what capacity. We can still do these things. And that's a powerful thing.


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Lindsey

Yeah, it absolutely is.


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Jon

And I think that ties directly into the be afraid, but do it anyways. It's like, yeah, what if? Well, what if it's not real? It's a good planning considerations could be aware of, but it's not real. What's real is what you can do now.


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Jon

So do it anyways, and then be prepared to respond to those things as you go, right?


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Lindsey

I was listening to Stephen Fertig. He's a pastor for Elevation Church, and he was saying that your your past is fiction and your future is fiction. All you have is your moment right now. Hmm. And because that is truth, and that is where you are.


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Lindsey

So you can't live, you have to do some forward planning. But his point is that you can't build this whole fictional realm in front of you for the future. If you're not willing to action it now and take those small steps to make those things become real life.


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Lindsey

And I thought that was really powerful and really interesting because it's true. You know, you can change the things from your past. Some of the trajectories that you feel like you've been on making the smaller changes today and moving forward in those things and pushing into the fear and going past that.


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Lindsey

But your future of what you think may or may not happen is determined by you. And I thought that was really interesting, too. Yeah.


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Jon

And in the same way, you can also learn to see your past differently. Change your perspective. Right, right. And so in the present, you can change how we perceive the past, which, to your point, changes how you the past affects you and who you are now compared to who you were.


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Lindsey

Right? And his thought was that sometimes we'll rewrite how things happen to us in the past because it was easier to convince ourselves that it went differently then than to really see it. How it was. Hmm.


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Jon

That's solid. So looking at that, that was a I'm so glad I asked that question, just jumped into my head and got a bombshell response is value add. So that was good for me. I don't know if that was good for anyone else, but selfishly happy to have asked it.


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Jon

one other question I did have in mind Is this whole concept to be afraid, but do it anyways? You kind of touched on in the beginning, but how would you? Encourage someone to start freeing themselves from a crippling from crippling fear in life that they're so risk averse that they're they're just looking for how to begin living


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Jon

in the mantra of it's OK to be afraid, but do it anyways.


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Lindsey

You have to take it. It goes back to somewhat of that, that small step, but also full submersion. I'm not saying like, go put your hand in the middle of a jar full of spiders that could be really stupid.


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Lindsey

Maybe don't do.


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Jon

That. Yeah, don't be stupid.


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Lindsey

You know what I mean? Like, don't cross the street and hope you don't get hit by a car like you can't be stupid about certain things. But if you're you're afraid of getting healthier because it means it's going to be painful in the process of of relearning how to eat or read, telling yourself no to certain things


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Lindsey

that you know are bad for your body, or even having to go outside and go for a walk in the cold will buy some good gear. And I'm even speaking to myself because I hate the cold, but buy some good gear and go outside, even if it's just for 20 minutes, that's better than not doing it at


09;42;11;12 - 09;41;57;10

Lindsey

all. Same with, you know, getting healthy and just these different types of things like or eating differently, like cut your sugar and make sure that you actually stick to not cutting your sugar. Don't go, Oh, well, today is going to be a cheat day.


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Lindsey

Don't have kids do it for a pattern of what is it, a patterns 21 days.


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Jon

There's no data on it.


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Lindsey

OK. Depending on whatever it is. So do it for a month straight. Try it, then you know and see how do you? And take note. OK, I didn't have sugar this first day and I felt like trash. OK, well, your body's probably detoxing it right?


09;41;36;17 - 09;41;25;06

Lindsey

And you're probably going to feel that way for the next couple of days. But if you replace your sugar with, let's say, an apple or a fruit, then your body's going to get different minerals and different vitamins from that healthier option.


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Lindsey

Do that for a month straight and take note like either every day or at the end of every couple of days or the end of a week and be like, Wow, I'm more awake or I have more energy for this and I don't feel sluggish.


09;41;10;11 - 09;40;50;09

Lindsey

I don't feel tired. I my stomach doesn't hurt. My brain doesn't feel foggy. Just these different things that certain foods and certain habits specifically around food can affect you. So try and be really cognizant of OK, if I eat a bunch of sugar now, sugar is an easy one to go down that path with.


09;40;50;09 - 09;40;33;14

Lindsey

That's why I'm using this one. Mm-Hmm. How do I feel afterwards? And this, that and the other, you know, and then go down after not having it for a whole week while how do you feel? And then you have to at the end of that way, is it worth going back to the sugar?


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Jon

You could replace the word sugary with drinking with a bunch of anything.


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Lindsey

Yeah, fast food.


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Jon

one, the fear.


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Lindsey

Of soda, any of it.


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Jon

You know, I'm thinking through, how does that turn to fear? Because it sounds like you're talking about comfort and discipline in one of the things that.


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Lindsey

But that's fearful because you have to give up some of your comfort.


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Jon

That hits the nail on the head. I can when you realize that you're giving up something that makes you comfortable. That's frightening.


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Lindsey

It is, but you still have to do it anyways.

 

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