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42. Seek Curiousity _ Nicholas Cutsforth Part 1


 

Today we sit down with Nick “Cuts” Cutsforth and have a good old fashioned genuine, intentional conversation.


Highlights include: -Explore how the family unit benefits society first, not society the family. -Have a plan & know the desired end game. -Be adaptable. -Developing Deep Relationships -Don’t forget your history. -Ownership of life choices. -Stick to your moral standing. -Seek wise & hard counsel. -Learn yourself. -Feed the good, temper the bad. -Turtle talk. -Always keep going.


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08;06;30;21 - 08;06;29;23

Nick "Cuts"

Hello. Good morning.


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Jon

How are you?


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Nick "Cuts"

I am.


08;06;26;15 - 08;06;23;01

Nick "Cuts"

Doing well. The yeah, like I said.


08;06;23;01 - 08;06;22;16

Nick "Cuts"

The.


08;06;21;26 - 08;06;17;26

Nick "Cuts"

Family is a little sick. They got the they got the cold, not the rona. Just a cold.


08;06;17;21 - 08;06;14;13

Jon

So do you know it's actually it's not the rona?


08;06;13;16 - 08;06;06;13

Nick "Cuts"

I have a test in right now. I should know later today if I have the rona because we've had three cases and my unit.


08;06;06;13 - 08;06;05;19

Nick "Cuts"

Now, so.


08;06;05;07 - 08;06;02;19

Jon

So to be determined, it's possible. It's the rona.


08;06;02;13 - 08;05;52;11

Nick "Cuts"

It's one of my home tests. Yeah, I did one of the home tests and it came back negative. So I mean, same home test that was used and somebody tested a pineapple and it came back with COVID.


08;05;52;11 - 08;05;50;01

Lindsey

So we'll see. Interesting.


08;05;47;20 - 08;05;42;16

Jon

So I was secretly hoping that you were going to surprise me and show up in person.


08;05;42;03 - 08;05;41;08

Nick "Cuts"

For us to talk.


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Jon

Yeah, it didn't happen.


08;05;39;00 - 08;05;37;24

Nick "Cuts"

Sorry, that.


08;05;37;24 - 08;05;37;07

Lindsey

Crash.


08;05;36;11 - 08;05;33;15

Nick "Cuts"

It's a bit of a drive. We all we all want to.


08;05;33;15 - 08;05;27;12

Nick "Cuts"

But the what would be a only 15 or 16 hour drive to you guys would turn into at least a three day drive.


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Lindsey

Yeah, we totally understand that.


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Jon

15 hours is a lot, especially at the little one.


08;05;22;13 - 08;05;21;17

Nick "Cuts"

Yeah.


08;05;21;06 - 08;05;19;26

Jon

eight hours would be doable.


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Lindsey

I mean, we just did a ten hour drive to Utah and it was twelve. I think we we kept it to twelve hours on the way back. I think it was more like 13, though.


08;05;11;03 - 08;05;09;24

Nick "Cuts"

Yeah, that's that's right.


08;05;08;19 - 08;05;08;08

Nick "Cuts"

Yeah.


08;05;07;25 - 08;04;51;27

Nick "Cuts"

That's what it turned into when we went down to go see Lauren's grandfather. It was a ten hour drive turned into a 14 hour drive. Within the span of 72 hours. So two, 14 hour. Yeah, it was an adventure, to.


08;04;51;27 - 08;04;46;24

Nick "Cuts"

Say the least. Yeah, we got that.


08;04;46;12 - 08;04;39;07

Nick "Cuts"

There is the pull off at the gas stations for the for the feedings, the diaper changes. And yeah, it was.


08;04;39;07 - 08;04;38;22

Nick "Cuts"

It was good.


08;04;38;12 - 08;04;33;15

Nick "Cuts"

It definitely eye-opening to be a parent. It is a.


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Nick "Cuts"

No.


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Lindsey

That's true.


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Jon

Yeah, yeah. Welcome to fatherhood, man.


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Nick "Cuts"

I know it is. It is the new frontier. You know, the the concept of like, I know what I'm physically capable of. I know what Lauren's physically capable of. I know what we're physically capable of as adults. And now you throw in a little while human whose sole purpose right now is to grow and can't do that


08;04;06;03 - 08;04;01;01

Nick "Cuts"

without either one of you supporting. It's like. What do you do?


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Lindsey

Yeah, they wreak havoc on all of it.


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Nick "Cuts"

All of it. All of it. It's schedules, sleep schedules. You can't technically get a sleep train till they're three months old or even.


08;03;47;19 - 08;03;45;10

Lindsey

Recently, even if it works at three months.


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Jon

So the science is just like black magic. People will just say things that sound good, but they don't really. There's no real science to this.


08;03;36;28 - 08;03;35;07

Nick "Cuts"

Roll the dice. Oh, we got a three.


08;03;35;07 - 08;03;34;00

Nick "Cuts"

Day, we got three hours.


08;03;33;29 - 08;03;33;20

Nick "Cuts"

Yay.


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Jon

Sydney. I'm curious with being a new dad, you've always been one. He's been amazing with children and loved them. What has been the most surprising with it being your own kid?


08;03;21;25 - 08;03;19;29

Nick "Cuts"

It is been a.


08;03;18;15 - 08;02;58;01

Nick "Cuts"

It's like a it's a paradigm shift like love, kids absolutely love hanging out with them. But there's a point where you can give them back to the parents right here. You're there for a short period, but there's something about having your own child in the we call them his big gummy grins that you could have just changed


08;02;58;01 - 08;02;41;27

Nick "Cuts"

the biggest diaper ever known to man and confetti have gone everywhere, and he's happy as a clam afterwards, a big old grin, and it's like it just goes away. There's no animosity or they just put it's like it happened.


08;02;41;12 - 08;02;33;21

Nick "Cuts"

And now he's smiling in his love. That's his. It's like it just washes over you and you're just like, I love.


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Nick "Cuts"

It. It's it's real.


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Nick "Cuts"

You know, it just it makes all the hard stuff, all the tough stuff going to the office, dealing with knuckleheads. They're dealing with all the stupidity around quarter because you come home and you get that big old grin and it's like Hank, have things better.


08;02;16;07 - 08;02;15;17

Jon

Become bigger in.


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Nick "Cuts"

The gummy grin. He has no teeth.


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Lindsey

So yeah.


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Jon

So the so the surprise for you is the connection with your own.


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Nick "Cuts"

Mm hmm.


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Nick "Cuts"

And I think that that's the pivotal and just as you evolve or as you grow in life having that connection, you know, because that's that's the very foundation of of being able to to go further, go farther than you can individually, even as a married couple.


08;01;45;08 - 08;01;24;25

Nick "Cuts"

Your your Mac's input into society as a whole caps out at a certain point. There's only so much you as a married couple can provide the world and your legacy kind of tapers off at a certain point. Unless you have the next generation, you can raise up and push that forward with, you know.


08;01;23;22 - 08;01;16;07

Nick "Cuts"

And so looking at him every day from the the lights that he sees and his eyes get like the size of.


08;01;15;25 - 08;01;15;14

Nick "Cuts"

You know.


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Nick "Cuts"

Saucer plates to him kicking and moving and being able to do all the coordination stuff. It's like, this is him growing and being able to, once he's older, be able to pass on some of the those skills and those things so he can go further than I did.


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Nick "Cuts"

You know, I got launched in here. I'm hoping to launch him in here in the next generations after that.


08;00;52;28 - 08;00;46;20

Lindsey

So absolutely. I found to you that it was like a new weight of responsibility to continue to carry forward.


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Nick "Cuts"

Absolutely. And learn on a regular is just, I mean, she's phenomenal with him and just the things he's learned from her. It definitely drives in that point of like it is a it is a partnership to raise children.


08;00;31;11 - 08;00;16;11

Nick "Cuts"

It's not just a mom thing or a dad thing, it is a partnership to to drive that forward. And and that's just the very foundation of society in general is the family unit. You know, that's why God created Adam and Eve.


08;00;16;11 - 08;00;02;09

Nick "Cuts"

The way he did and the way we we perceive reality is you need the balance of the two, you need the love and the nurture, but you need both sets to be able to push that forward. I'm not saying that single parents can't do it.


08;00;02;09 - 09;59;59;25

Lindsey

It's just it makes it more difficult.


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Nick "Cuts"

Absolutely.


09;59;58;20 - 09;59;51;18

Jon

There are a significant deficit and deficit if you're a single parent and and the data supports that. Yeah.


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Lindsey

It's not even to. I mean, single parents get put their house like I hold them in a lot of regard and things like that because it's like, man, for a while. I mean, I had Jonathan, you know, while he was in the military and things like that.


09;59;37;24 - 09;59;26;07

Lindsey

But at the same time, it was like I single parented for all those years and it was like I was at least able to text him or reach out to him and have that extra support where it was a sole single parent.


09;59;26;07 - 09;59;18;06

Lindsey

You have to kind of look for that through family or friends, and it becomes really difficult. So I give them all the kudos. That's hard.


09;59;18;05 - 09;59;10;14

Jon

I think the point that we're saying is it's not a criticism of being a single parent by any means because that's that's one hell of a journey. But it is something to protect.


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Lindsey

Know what the proper family unit. Yeah. Yeah, it really matters.


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Nick "Cuts"

Absolutely.


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Jon

It's crazy because that's actually a big part of the type of community we're wanting to build with. All this right is is honoring and making sexy again.


09;58;54;20 - 09;58;53;22

Lindsey

The family in a.


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Jon

Partnership of a husband and wife. It in life because it's crazy, because even in a lot of people that do have whole homes like they'll talk about the dad babysitting or whatever, it's like, No, this is his father.


09;58;41;00 - 09;58;29;13

Jon

Like, he should be as equal part of this in his own way. You know, as a man, I will love, nurture my sons, my the flavor of that love and nurture will be different than how Lindsay loves and nurtures them.


09;58;29;00 - 09;58;18;07

Jon

But I have a responsibility to love and nurture them, just as I do to hold them accountable and have discipline. Does she and it's that we are better at it together, for sure.


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Nick "Cuts"

Exactly because you balance each other's. I don't want to see inequities. More so your areas of lacking, right? So for me, you know, I I'm not the best speller for an example. I don't know how I got through college.


09;57;59;14 - 09;57;46;27

Nick "Cuts"

I don't know how I'm getting through my papers with my masters. I spill about on the eighth grade level. Auto auto correct is my friend. And Lauren, on the other hand.


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Lindsey

Can spell great words backwards, upside down and sideways.


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Nick "Cuts"

You can see it from across the room.


09;57;39;28 - 09;57;38;18

Nick "Cuts"

This millionaires in my paper.


09;57;38;05 - 09;57;37;22

Nick "Cuts"

It is.


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Nick "Cuts"

And it's humbling because I know that's an inequity I have and something that I have to improve on and I try. But. There's only so much information that can be put in, but she's she's very gifted in that area of whereas on math fronts.


09;57;21;17 - 09;57;07;21

Nick "Cuts"

She just hands me the the calculator. It's like, Hey, go, this is this is your room. But simple things like that works the balance and the contrast is able to provide that, that foundation and that's just that's in the home unit.


09;57;07;21 - 09;56;45;07

Nick "Cuts"

And then that outside of the family outside of the family unit then allows the society to better have a foundation of shared understanding, shared moral shared. You know, reality because we all understand, hey, we're coming from a home where these are kind of our baseline understandings of a, you know, husband and wife relationship, and we walk into


09;56;45;07 - 09;56;26;13

Nick "Cuts"

the job and we understand your interaction with people that they understand those same principles. And unfortunately, that's I think that that directly correlates into that community concept of grit because. You can have personal great, but if other people don't understand it, they can't.


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Nick "Cuts"

They don't know how to interact with you. You don't know how to interact with them because they're going to look at is, Oh, you're just an overachiever. It's like, No, this is just the baseline functions of being a functioning member of a cohesive family unit and bringing that forward into the real world or into a job setting


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Nick "Cuts"

. And that's how it goes.


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Jon

You know, society comes from the individuals through the family to the society, right?


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Nick "Cuts"

Yeah.


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Nick "Cuts"

They're not reverse. So society does not. Society should not inform the families of families. Should inform the society.


09;55;52;17 - 09;55;51;15

Lindsey

Absolutely agree with that.


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Jon

Yeah, I agree. So we we've had we've been talking for a little bit and you are.


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Lindsey

We should probably do an actual introduction like, oh.


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Nick "Cuts"

Yeah.


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Lindsey

Let's force is.


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Jon

So I have a quick story to describe one of many. It's probably not flattering, but it sure is funny of Nick its fourth year.


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Lindsey

So I'm nervous too for this Nick.


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Jon

Our relationship started way back in the early days of college, so we've had quite a history. And there was one night in which we were being college aged males.


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Lindsey

I think I know where this is going.


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Jon

And I'll just never forget the way the moonlight bounced.


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Nick "Cuts"

Yeah.


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Lindsey

Of waiting for the story.


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Jon

Off of your back end as you ran and nothing but cowboy boots down the street because you are.


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Nick "Cuts"

Oh yeah, that was. Oh man.


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Nick "Cuts"

That was a different time for sure. And I remember it having to hit the back of your truck to get in the back as well.


09;54;53;07 - 09;54;51;16

Nick "Cuts"

Because the car was covering this car.


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Jon

So that was a good memory of it.


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Nick "Cuts"

Luckily, there was only one street light on, and that was the one that I had to run to. And then everything else was relatively dark.


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Nick "Cuts"

Scary.


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Jon

But it was a good time, a good memory. And you have been one who's walked through with our family, everything from when we learned about Jeremiah. You hold me accountable for for not telling you guys the truth on some things.


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Jon

And then you got you walked with Lindsey, and I helped us move into our first home and.


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Nick "Cuts"

Help.


09;54;17;11 - 09;54;15;16

Jon

Welcome our first son into the world.


09;54;15;16 - 09;54;12;01

Nick "Cuts"

And I'm. We're one of them, I.


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Lindsey

Taught you a lot.


09;54;10;17 - 09;53;56;22

Jon

one of the the two grooms men I had and you. Yeah, it's been good, and since then I've just gone on and the army's taken us different ways, but we've always stayed connected, so it's been a cool thing.


09;53;56;21 - 09;53;47;03

Jon

So you're someone who's a beloved part of my, my life and heart and our family, and it was about time we sat down and had a conversation like this.


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Nick "Cuts"

Yeah, absolutely. And same with you. I mean, you guys have walked through with me through lots of things starting in college. I mean, us going through the Avengers we did and the.


09;53;35;14 - 09;53;35;00

Nick "Cuts"

The.


09;53;34;22 - 09;53;27;14

Nick "Cuts"

ROTC program and that that whole climate, as well as getting through our theology degrees together that was.


09;53;26;18 - 09;53;25;25

Nick "Cuts"

Sitting there with.


09;53;25;25 - 09;53;21;00

Lindsey

Your candle light and your your science music going to.


09;53;21;00 - 09;53;18;16

Nick "Cuts"

Oh no, it was not. It was a.


09;53;18;16 - 09;53;15;07

Nick "Cuts"

Cathedral. My chance. Yeah.


09;53;14;28 - 09;53;13;16

Nick "Cuts"

Yes, there you go. Yeah.


09;53;13;08 - 09;53;07;04

Nick "Cuts"

And our and our glasses of wine, as we pontificated about the apologetics of the day.


09;53;06;27 - 09;53;05;06

Jon

Probably just sounded foolish, but had.


09;53;05;06 - 09;53;02;15

Nick "Cuts"

Fun wake.


09;53;02;15 - 09;52;59;14

Nick "Cuts"

Up the next day. Read the paper. What on earth did we write?


09;52;59;03 - 09;52;58;21

Nick "Cuts"

Yeah.


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Lindsey

Oh, well, that's what we wrote. Send it in.


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Nick "Cuts"

Yeah.


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Nick "Cuts"

So um, but yeah, you guys have been there. We I think, like you said, twelve years is what I'm tracking because Jeremiah is about to be nine, right?


09;52;45;11 - 09;52;43;07

Lindsey

Yeah, he'll be nine next year. Yeah, he just turned eight.


09;52;42;29 - 09;52;42;19

Nick "Cuts"

Yeah.


09;52;42;19 - 09;52;39;00

Lindsey

So yeah, I've known you both since 2012.


09;52;37;12 - 09;52;36;03

Nick "Cuts"

So, oh, so ten.


09;52;35;15 - 09;52;27;09

Lindsey

Yes, it'll be ten, eleven September of this next year, so I've known you guys each for nine years. Yeah. So that means you guys have known each other longer.


09;52;27;08 - 09;52;23;12

Jon

Which is essentially the entire nation of my Adobe memory.


09;52;23;01 - 09;52;18;19

Nick "Cuts"

Yes, I don't. Pretty much before. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.


09;52;18;16 - 09;52;12;09

Nick "Cuts"

Before, yeah, before adulthood is all like just trying to get to college. And then once you got to college, it's.


09;52;10;17 - 09;52;08;18

Nick "Cuts"

So little about me.


09;52;07;19 - 09;51;47;27

Nick "Cuts"

Grew up a military brat, so I was moved to Germany, moved all over. When people ask where I'm from, I will claim the South because that's where I spend most of my life. But I will claim California as a good little flavor spring clean in the middle of my journey because of course, that's where I'm at.


09;51;47;27 - 09;51;31;02

Nick "Cuts"

You guys, I went to college, but it was not. It helped culture me, I guess you could say so that I wasn't just stuck in the. This is the way, according The Mandalorian, a little bit there, but am I nerd and will come out even more so.


09;51;29;19 - 09;51;28;27

Jon

You just blown it.


09;51;28;18 - 09;51;27;14

Nick "Cuts"

Yeah, I love it.


09;51;27;07 - 09;51;19;29

Nick "Cuts"

I have all the little pops in my office and people walk in and they walk right back out. If they are just, they know what they're getting.


09;51;19;22 - 09;51;19;02

Nick "Cuts"

So.


09;51;17;14 - 09;50;51;29

Nick "Cuts"

So yeah, I grew up bounced around quite a bit with my dad in and out of different jobs and then went to college, got a theology degree and then commissioned into the army. Has an intel officer been doing that for the past eight years and just having to having to figure out a lot of the stuff out


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Nick "Cuts"

as I was going along?


09;50;49;29 - 09;50;49;18

Nick "Cuts"

You know.


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Nick "Cuts"

Luckily, I had good friends and family that were able to help influence or at least speak some truth into my life at key points to help me.


09;50;39;25 - 09;50;38;28

Nick "Cuts"

Course, correct?


09;50;36;27 - 09;50;16;23

Nick "Cuts"

And not go down. You know, the use my talents and my skills for things that I ought not to. And so here I am, married to an amazing woman and have my first baby boy so well. second. second child, because we have the first child.


09;50;16;09 - 09;50;15;01

Nick "Cuts"

Oh, so hard.


09;50;15;01 - 09;50;14;21

Nick "Cuts"

To claim.


09;50;14;21 - 09;50;11;19

Nick "Cuts"

Rudeness. But yeah, so.


09;50;09;03 - 09;50;00;17

Nick "Cuts"

It's good and. Yeah, so that's kind of a little bit about me. That's who I am, where I came from.


09;49;59;19 - 09;49;58;06

Jon

That's a that's a high and view.


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Nick "Cuts"

Yeah, that's that's a three.


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Nick "Cuts"

Thousand five U.


09;49;53;29 - 09;49;31;08

Lindsey

Okay, so what are some of the struggles when you are bouncing around as a military brat that you've taken from childhood that you've overcome learned? How do you like kind of adapt your character, your your resilience skills? What what are some of those that you've carried on that are still good ones to have as an adult who


09;49;28;16 - 09;49;27;17

Nick "Cuts"

? I think the.


09;49;27;17 - 09;49;03;08

Nick "Cuts"

Big thing for me is is always having a plan. The only certain thing about the military is the uncertainty. You know, there's everything's changing constant, constant flux change. Here we have a set schedule. It's going to change the ability to have a plan, even if it doesn't stick or stay, at least gives you the direction you want


09;49;03;08 - 09;48;42;21

Nick "Cuts"

to go. So, hey, we're going to move to Indiana. You know, that was our big the most recent big change, you know, and the top five stressors, right, moving, changing jobs, sickness, death and divorce or having children in divorce, right?


09;48;42;19 - 09;48;38;23

Nick "Cuts"

Those are like the top six big stressors. So we had a changing job.


09;48;37;10 - 09;48;33;19

Nick "Cuts"

Jack baby on the way. Yeah, yeah. Baby, you almost.


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Lindsey

Are pregnant, right?


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Nick "Cuts"

Yeah, exactly. So the three of the top six. And so having the plan though, hey, you know what? We have this free time. Prior to us getting up there, we had spring break and we decided, Hey, you know what?


09;48;19;03 - 09;48;07;10

Nick "Cuts"

We're going to fly up, we're going to go take a look at the area, you know, doing a little bit that assessment beforehand, collecting all the information so we can make an educated decision instead of just, hey, willy nilly, just go for it.


09;48;06;19 - 09;47;56;14

Nick "Cuts"

I think that was something I learned watching. The countless times we moved in just didn't have a plan. We didn't know where we're going. We're just going to stay with family until we figure it out once we got there.


09;47;55;08 - 09;47;40;20

Nick "Cuts"

Definitely drove home the narrative of Hey. You need to be able to look at the where you want to go, what their end goal is and start collecting the information, I mean, especially with me being an intel guy.


09;47;39;19 - 09;47;25;12

Nick "Cuts"

Data need the data points. I need the information and Lawrence the same way. We need the information so we can make an educated decision because we the one thing we hate is and decisiveness in the inability to pay.


09;47;25;12 - 09;47;12;09

Nick "Cuts"

You know what, we've we've looked at all the information. We can actually make a decision not to say that in the moment, sometimes you can make a rash decision, but if you have the time. Don't procrastinate and actually invest into that.


09;47;12;09 - 09;46;57;25

Nick "Cuts"

Planning is going to pay dividends. And so that was something definitely learned. The other thing is. Also, not always being married to your initial plan, you know, so a.


09;46;57;24 - 09;46;57;03

Jon

Times, literally.


09;46;56;18 - 09;46;55;23

Nick "Cuts"

Yeah, exactly.


09;46;53;16 - 09;46;52;11

Nick "Cuts"

So don't.


09;46;52;09 - 09;46;50;07

Nick "Cuts"

Don't say it once you.


09;46;49;10 - 09;46;37;02

Nick "Cuts"

Once you've made the plan. If things change. Be willing to adapt. And that that's the big thing is things are going to change. Things are going to alter. But if you have an end goal already establishing, know where you want to go.


09;46;36;11 - 09;46;21;24

Nick "Cuts"

It's easier to correct back to that lighthouse per se than to just sit and be like, Well, that didn't work. We're just going to throw the whole thing away. The plans still viable. It's just you've got to change how you're getting to that end goal.


09;46;20;27 - 09;46;06;10

Nick "Cuts"

And so that that was something definitely learned with moving around all the time. Because if I moved between first grade and senior year of high school, I went to eight different schools. Mm-Hmm.


09;46;05;03 - 09;46;04;07

Nick "Cuts"

Yeah, that's a line.