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13. Just Today _ Deb Loewen _ Part 2

Updated: Nov 15, 2021


 

Today we met with Deb "The Debinator" Loewen. Our conversation explored her journey through motherhood and her 15 years of battling 3 separate rounds of cancer. Through the discussion we learn why her two favorite mantra's ("Just Today" & "Not Your Story") are powerful, and how they can apply to you. Highlights include: - How holding onto a good thing can spoil it. - When "Vision Casting", start with you. - The journey through parenthood. - The journey through not 1, not 2, but 3 forms of cancer. - Continuing to live fully, despite tragedy. - Declaring, "I Will Not Die!" - Communicating through the challenge. - Living for more than yourself. - Embodying death. Engaging those in tragedy - How normalcy can be medicinal. - No escape from reality, it must be faced. - Refusing to give into fear. - Be careful what you choose to accept about yourself. - Finding resolve when exhausted, tired & fatigued. - Just be there. - Choose carefully when to freak out. - Do something good. Did you find value in today’s conversation? SHARE IT!

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09;47;48;05 - 09;47;36;17

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Very comfortable with this house, a DFAT post not going to go into the details of how it happened. I did the analysis after it to figure out what I did wrong. Bottom line I took the key post driver on the third hit.


09;47;36;10 - 09;47;20;26

Jon, Aaron & Deb

It caught the top of the post. I've trained myself loads going everywhere. Definitely a precaution. So I I remember a little bit you went down like this. I didn't stay down there. You didn't know you got to the absolute best to this point.


09;47;20;20 - 09;47;05;07

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yeah. Yeah, proud. You can see right or wrong. He continued the rest of the day because that was the first post. Wow. My grandfather died on my foot of fencing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we and we joked about, you know, we all have that friend.


09;47;05;03 - 09;46;52;14

Jon, Aaron & Deb

We we regret asking to do a job because they're just John going to be that guy who's a liability. Is this overzealous before I redeem myself the next 800 seat?


09;46;52;14 - 09;46;51;02

Jon, Aaron & Deb

But but but.


09;46;50;11 - 09;46;38;03

Jon, Aaron & Deb

It's funny because it's like what? That literally was a blow to the head. You had to get back in, you know? Yeah. And sometimes it's physical ones zero, some ibuprofen and bleeding that I was like.


09;46;36;24 - 09;46;36;15

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yeah.


09;46;34;28 - 09;46;19;03

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yeah, wow. You're lucky to get the song down. And he gave me a shirt. Like for the next three hours, I had to keep wiping away tears. But and that's kind of a fun aside. But it comes directly back to like when you get famous people or whether it's him and had fun off a horse or more


09;46;19;03 - 09;46;03;20

Jon, Aaron & Deb

systemically, your identity is being questioned, you read. This is a when you're feeling something out of a job, regardless of its key posts, because I was my pride stung. I was a bear and I was like, I'm not the one time he's asked me to help him with the project and to say.


09;46;03;15 - 09;46;02;20

Jon, Aaron & Deb

You know, yes.


09;46;02;18 - 09;45;43;22

Jon, Aaron & Deb

So it's like, that's a micro example of what you're walking through. And I actually remember having conversations around when that season. It's so cool. It's like. That's part of your transition to going into that type of job and going to that, there's going to be gross pains, there's going to be transitions, you know?


09;45;43;15 - 09;45;27;02

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And I think what I want to think about a friend right now that they're going through a significant transition and it's harder now and they're adjusting, you know, they're chafing under the adjustments and it's like, that's expected. But I think that the lie is that it's just going to be on the story.


09;45;26;24 - 09;45;26;14

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Right?


09;45;25;29 - 09;45;12;08

Jon, Aaron & Deb

The truth is no, no, no. When you're starting to feel that friction and you're feeling the weight of that, you don't go back to what you came from. Pushed through to the promise of what can be in this new chapter, you know, and that's so beautiful.


09;45;12;08 - 09;45;00;25

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And I think that it's and it's exactly what happened there, right? You guys had your your talk and you were able to push through and now you're the right hand person for the company, right? You guys are crushing it.


09;45;00;25 - 09;44;50;08

Jon, Aaron & Deb

You gain the competency, you have the skill set. You're happy with what you do, right? It's funny because I've done a lot of work with Jeff, who happens to be the father in law, and we built a very large barn together.


09;44;49;29 - 09;44;41;01

Jon, Aaron & Deb

He's not a man. You want to mess up, you know, he cares, and he's very compassionate and very astute. So it's like, my mistake is unforgivable.


09;44;39;27 - 09;44;39;02

Jon, Aaron & Deb

I'm sorry, but.


09;44;39;02 - 09;44;36;10

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Now I'm fixing it. And just good luck.


09;44;35;19 - 09;44;34;14

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yeah, you of the worst.


09;44;34;14 - 09;44;12;12

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Human beings I have facing the bad guys. Yet, whether you're putting or you find finding a pleasure telling us, like, we can do this and it's just like, you don't you just do it. But I love you what that type of personality calls out and you because you're either going to be a loser and just buckle.


09;44;11;20 - 09;43;58;14

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And I think every human question should have a corner. And that's another viewpoint. We're going to rise to the challenge, and I see the same spark in you. And that's why it's fine. It's like, I'll never forget, I am pushed back on something.


09;43;58;13 - 09;43;40;28

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Apparently, we were having a conversation and just like off the cuff of it, no, I disagree. Because of this, it had just come back. Well, John, you were wrong. And this is why. And I just sat there and I was a little angry, but I was able to realize that's my pride.


09;43;40;28 - 09;43;23;28

Jon, Aaron & Deb

That's angry because she's clearly right, as she has outlined in painful detail. So I just look, I can see that you're correct and I retract my statement and then I wouldn't call that resignation right now. No point in fighting it because I know I'm wrong invested here.


09;43;23;07 - 09;43;16;19

Jon, Aaron & Deb

You have a long history of addressing negative or incorrect information. Right? You know.


09;43;16;19 - 09;43;16;10

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Thank.


09;43;16;09 - 09;43;04;25

Jon, Aaron & Deb

You. And and you you learn how to look at it. And yeah, and even and even like you and your story, it's it's like I was ready to quit. I mean, I was ready to do the wrong thing.


09;43;03;10 - 09;42;50;01

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Right? I mean, that's real, you know, because I absolutely I was really it was. I mean. Oh yeah, I slept on it a couple of days and and you allow yourself to come around to, Hey, what's Liz? What's the next step next?


09;42;50;00 - 09;42;43;03

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Real quick cookies. There are two things that I think are really important one the importance of taking a pause before making emotional decision.


09;42;43;02 - 09;42;42;06

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yet right.


09;42;41;24 - 09;42;28;25

Jon, Aaron & Deb

At first. Oh man, I hate that you mentioned on Friday and thinking it through the weekend. But then I was like, Yeah, that made it uncomfortable. But how good was that? Because you were able to process it for two days, which absolutely it wasn't meant to be comfortable.


09;42;28;11 - 09;42;24;08

Jon, Aaron & Deb

It was meant to invoke that discomfort that you had to come to a conclusion.


09;42;24;02 - 09;42;23;18

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yes.


09;42;23;18 - 09;42;05;10

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And then the second thing is, you just mentioned, you know, you almost made the wrong choice. And I think that's true, right? Like, you would have been the wrong choice. But when when we're in the moment of processing for these life decisions, it's not clear which choice is right and which ones wrong.


09;42;05;01 - 09;41;52;26

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yes, I would agree because even in that moment, the only thing that I kept thinking of was not so much me as much as OK, but it's about the team. It's about, I want you to be successful.


09;41;52;26 - 09;41;51;10

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And if I'm not the best person.


09;41;51;02 - 09;41;49;25

Jon, Aaron & Deb

For you to be successful.


09;41;49;25 - 09;41;48;25

Jon, Aaron & Deb

At what you're doing.


09;41;48;25 - 09;41;47;19

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And where you're going, then.


09;41;47;19 - 09;41;44;29

Jon, Aaron & Deb

I need to battle out. And I know, right?


09;41;44;28 - 09;41;43;13

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yeah. So it wasn't even like, you.


09;41;43;13 - 09;41;42;14

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Know, oh.


09;41;42;14 - 09;41;40;00

Jon, Aaron & Deb

For me, it was like, Oh my goodness, I am not the.


09;41;40;00 - 09;41;36;11

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Right person for this job. So, yeah, and to me.


09;41;36;11 - 09;41;31;10

Jon, Aaron & Deb

That would have been clear. It's like, great if you are the right person, not my skillset, you should find somebody else.


09;41;31;07 - 09;41;30;25

Jon, Aaron & Deb

I'll go.


09;41;30;24 - 09;41;24;13

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Out. I'll find something else. And yet in that process, there is still that. OK, but what about you?


09;41;23;15 - 09;41;14;17

Jon, Aaron & Deb

That is that's the thing, because when we get ourselves out of the situation, it's going to be whether we're going to create a narrative that we can believe. Right?


09;41;14;09 - 09;41;13;20

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yes.


09;41;13;11 - 09;41;01;29

Jon, Aaron & Deb

So you realize that this is the narrative that I'm getting. And then you can and you can get rid of the discomfort pretty quick by just saying, OK, I made a decision. I think I we all want to do that.


09;41;01;29 - 09;40;51;29

Jon, Aaron & Deb

We all want to figure out what the solution is right away, so we don't have to wrestle with it. But you chose to be like, Is that the right? I mean, is that the conclusion I should come to right?


09;40;51;25 - 09;40;40;16

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And there was even a higher ideal that was even better than that negative that you're going to see this instead, that I'm going to come, I am going to come to the end of myself, but I'm not. I'm not going to let it take me over, right?


09;40;40;05 - 09;40;30;08

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yeah. And then and now other people wait. I have had way more positive, in fact, because you made an internal decision to make yourself better and pushed through.


09;40;29;27 - 09;40;26;24

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yes, exactly. Exactly.


09;40;25;21 - 09;40;11;02

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yes. And I want to ask you a question about the cancers that you walk, that you kind of understand that better but better to think about. How do I bring up the question? Because what I don't want to do and this is somebody who is going to say what I don't want to do more open about it


09;40;10;22 - 09;39;51;25

Jon, Aaron & Deb

. OK, there, Wolf. What I really admire in life and appreciate about you is I don't see any trace that the fact that you have survived involves three forms of cancer. It's not your identity. You know, it's circumstances that you thought there were seasons or things.


09;39;51;25 - 09;39;35;28

Jon, Aaron & Deb

They were fun. They were terrible. But there's so many people I know who God forbid they have cancer, they've had some injury or a divorce or something, and it's like that it finds them. It's like a high school player, guys, varsity jacket who never takes the jacket off and they're like 40 years old.


09;39;35;20 - 09;39;22;20

Jon, Aaron & Deb

You grow like, I'm glad this season was what it was, right? But you know, it shouldn't. It defines the point where that is the first piece of your identity, I see. And so I really appreciate that that's not you.


09;39;22;03 - 09;38;59;18

Jon, Aaron & Deb

So in asking this question, I'm not trying to paint like, Oh, you are. Yeah. The fact that you survived these cancers. I just admire the distinction that in spite of raising four children and everything else that you experience in life, you also went through these incredibly challenging personal health issues that also have second, third and fourth order


09;38;59;18 - 09;38;42;26

Jon, Aaron & Deb

effects of family work, all these different things. So I just love to understand a little bit about what that look like, but real world like timeline and type of the things that you fight through. And then also how, if at all, you think that shaped you to who you are today?


09;38;42;12 - 09;38;34;15

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And I'm not assuming it did. I imagine it touched you in some form or fashion. You had to choose how you're going to be. The difficulty?


09;38;32;15 - 09;38;32;03

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yeah.


09;38;31;20 - 09;38;31;02

Jon, Aaron & Deb

How's that?


09;38;30;24 - 09;38;29;26

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And that's good.


09;38;29;21 - 09;38;28;19

Jon, Aaron & Deb

That's a good question.


09;38;26;07 - 09;38;20;15

Jon, Aaron & Deb

So. 2008, I was diagnosed.


09;38;20;15 - 09;38;13;24

Jon, Aaron & Deb

With breast cancer and had to go through surgery, and we had eight rounds of chemo.


09;38;11;27 - 09;37;56;24

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And chemo was every three weeks. And in the process of that, I had, you know, the week that you have that I had chemo was. Pretty OK by the time we got.


09;37;56;24 - 09;37;56;00

Jon, Aaron & Deb

To the end of that week.


09;37;55;20 - 09;37;54;26

Jon, Aaron & Deb

The second week.


09;37;54;26 - 09;37;51;04

Jon, Aaron & Deb

I had pretty much be quarantined because I had no new interesting about whatsoever.


09;37;50;17 - 09;37;41;10

Jon, Aaron & Deb

So I had to be quarantined for the next two weeks. And by week three, I started feeling a little better. And then we.


09;37;41;10 - 09;37;40;02

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Started the process until August.


09;37;39;25 - 09;37;37;23

Jon, Aaron & Deb

So that was like my, you know.


09;37;37;14 - 09;37;35;16

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Threw me every three weeks kind of thing.


09;37;34;15 - 09;37;28;25

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Homeschooling the girls during that time. My oldest, when I literally found.


09;37;28;25 - 09;37;26;20

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Out in April.


09;37;25;19 - 09;37;22;26

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Of 2008, my oldest daughter.


09;37;22;26 - 09;37;21;09

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Turned 16.


09;37;20;11 - 09;37;19;16

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Just after I had.


09;37;19;16 - 09;37;18;20

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Had surgery.


09;37;18;01 - 09;37;15;26

Jon, Aaron & Deb

So we still celebrated.


09;37;15;25 - 09;37;12;18

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Her 16th birthday. I said, we are not going to not do this.


09;37;12;07 - 09;37;03;18

Jon, Aaron & Deb

We had already had a plan. I said, You still need to be celebrated. What is happening with me is not going to.


09;37;03;18 - 09;37;02;12

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Deter us from doing that.


09;37;01;07 - 09;36;57;27

Jon, Aaron & Deb

So and and even going back to.


09;36;57;27 - 09;36;57;17

Jon, Aaron & Deb

When.


09;36;57;15 - 09;36;56;10

Jon, Aaron & Deb

We first had to tell.


09;36;56;10 - 09;36;46;19

Jon, Aaron & Deb

The girls, when you get the news, you know, I got the phone call. Hi, Mrs. Line. Yes, it's cancer. And you.


09;36;46;19 - 09;36;46;09

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Just kind of.


09;36;46;09 - 09;36;44;14

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Go, OK.


09;36;43;27 - 09;36;41;21

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And so me and my husband, we went on.


09;36;41;08 - 09;36;39;21

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Set all of our girls down.


09;36;39;00 - 09;36;36;22

Jon, Aaron & Deb

I said. So we talk with the.


09;36;36;22 - 09;36;33;12

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Doctor and they said his cancer.


09;36;32;05 - 09;36;23;18

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And look at all our faces, and everybody's just kind of like, got that look like, how do I process this? Our youngest at the.


09;36;23;18 - 09;36;22;16

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Time was eight.


09;36;22;00 - 09;36;14;13

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And so, you know, she wasn't really sure or actually she was seven.


09;36;14;13 - 09;36;08;27

Jon, Aaron & Deb

She's going to be eight later that year. And our third daughter, Olivia, she was nine.


09;36;08;27 - 09;36;06;26

Jon, Aaron & Deb

She was the one who I think voice when.


09;36;06;26 - 09;36;05;07

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Everybody wanted to say the real.


09;36;04;23 - 09;36;01;29

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Because she looked at me while she looked at me and she had.


09;36;01;29 - 09;36;00;16

Jon, Aaron & Deb

This look on her face and go.


09;36;00;07 - 09;35;48;23

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Olivia, what did you hear mommy say? And she goes, It's cancer, you're going to die. Got it. So no.


09;35;48;01 - 09;35;47;09

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Mom is not going to.


09;35;46;21 - 09;35;46;16

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Be.


09;35;46;04 - 09;35;44;24

Jon, Aaron & Deb

The mom is not going to die. Mommy's got.


09;35;44;24 - 09;35;44;09

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Cancer.


09;35;43;27 - 09;35;41;29

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Says it be a long road.


09;35;41;13 - 09;35;39;00

Jon, Aaron & Deb

But mommy's not going to die.


09;35;37;25 - 09;35;36;17

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Now, I said that.


09;35;34;29 - 09;35;25;07

Jon, Aaron & Deb

You know, inside, I'm like, Oh my God. They said cancer, and that is definitely a reality. And yet I just literally declared to my daughter.


09;35;24;29 - 09;35;22;16

Jon, Aaron & Deb

I'm not dying, I'm not dying.


09;35;21;22 - 09;35;19;17

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And the.


09;35;19;01 - 09;35;17;25

Jon, Aaron & Deb

eight rounds of chemo that.


09;35;17;25 - 09;35;12;29

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Literally took it from April to November of that year, so literally almost the entire year.


09;35;12;17 - 09;35;10;27

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Was chemo.


09;35;08;27 - 09;35;07;23

Jon, Aaron & Deb

There is, you know.


09;35;06;28 - 09;35;04;08

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Schools still have to happen. So there.


09;35;04;08 - 09;35;03;14

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Were weeks.


09;35;03;14 - 09;34;57;26

Jon, Aaron & Deb

That mom was like, Here's here's the stuff that I need you to get done.


09;34;57;26 - 09;34;57;06

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And mom was.


09;34;57;06 - 09;34;50;28

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Like in my and my oldest daughter. She helped a lot with the younger ones.


09;34;50;28 - 09;34;44;11

Jon, Aaron & Deb

To kind of pick up that that was a really rough year for her. And it was towards the end of that year.


09;34;43;05 - 09;34;36;20

Jon, Aaron & Deb

It was in December we had gone to my brother's cabin and my chemo was all done. So I said.


09;34;36;20 - 09;34;36;00

Jon, Aaron & Deb

So that part.


09;34;35;21 - 09;34;34;14

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Was done. Now I was on the.


09;34;34;14 - 09;34;32;23

Jon, Aaron & Deb

five what I call the five year plan.


09;34;32;19 - 09;34;31;25

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Where it's like, you know, I have to.


09;34;31;24 - 09;34;25;26

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Take a chemo drug every day. It's like, it's like since I was like, It's a small, this is cannabis. I can't see this for.


09;34;25;26 - 09;34;25;17

Jon, Aaron & Deb

five.


09;34;25;17 - 09;34;24;10

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Years, and I.


09;34;24;09 - 09;34;23;05

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Have to see the doctor.


09;34;23;04 - 09;34;20;07

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Still once a month and I'll send them a five year plan.


09;34;19;12 - 09;34;18;06

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And I just remember.


09;34;18;06 - 09;34;16;26

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Being in Utah, we were.


09;34;16;26 - 09;34;16;12

Jon, Aaron & Deb

All sitting.


09;34;16;12 - 09;34;15;26

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Around.


09;34;15;16 - 09;34;13;09

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And talking and just going.


09;34;13;09 - 09;34;10;05

Jon, Aaron & Deb

OK, so where is everybody? How's everybody doing?


09;34;09;19 - 09;34;04;07

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And it was so it was so good because literally, probably.


09;34;04;07 - 09;34;03;05

Jon, Aaron & Deb

The next three hours.


09;34;02;23 - 09;33;59;16

Jon, Aaron & Deb

We just sat there and all of the girls for.


09;33;59;16 - 09;33;57;13

Jon, Aaron & Deb

The first time were able to just talk about.


09;33;56;24 - 09;33;56;07

Jon, Aaron & Deb

How they.


09;33;56;07 - 09;33;52;27

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Processed through the last several months of.


09;33;52;20 - 09;33;51;27

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Seeing mom.


09;33;51;18 - 09;33;50;09

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Going through all of that.


09;33;50;01 - 09;33;43;13

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And just being able to have them share that was so good because they kind of like held it in. It's like like I have to be.


09;33;43;13 - 09;33;42;23

Jon, Aaron & Deb

To her mom.


09;33;42;23 - 09;33;34;23

Jon, Aaron & Deb

I can't let mom know that, you know, I'm hurting. I'm angry and I'm frustrated and, you know, scared to death.


09;33;34;23 - 09;33;29;11

Jon, Aaron & Deb

That you know what's going to happen in. They're not, are they going to this mom? I'm going to be gone and I'm not going to have a mom for the rest of my life.


09;33;28;20 - 09;33;26;04

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And this is to say no.


09;33;26;03 - 09;33;25;22

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yeah.


09;33;25;09 - 09;33;20;02

Jon, Aaron & Deb

We've talked about this before when when you go through difficulty, don't don't think that you're the only one.


09;33;18;19 - 09;33;18;04

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Right?


09;33;17;24 - 09;33;02;28

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Because you're what you're going through is massive and would be easier for you to go, Hey, I'm the victim here, you guys. You know why you're going through in this discount? That right? But that went away saying, press, pause or go, Hey, how's the team doing?


09;33;02;28 - 09;33;00;22

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yes. Are we all doing with this information?


09;33;00;21 - 09;32;59;06

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Yes. Yeah.


09;32;58;24 - 09;32;55;29

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Which was so hard because I mean, there would be times even.


09;32;55;29 - 09;32;55;12

Jon, Aaron & Deb

In the middle.


09;32;55;02 - 09;32;54;07

Jon, Aaron & Deb

That I would just kind.


09;32;54;07 - 09;32;53;15

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Of let go.


09;32;53;14 - 09;32;50;09

Jon, Aaron & Deb

How you doing? And you know, the devil will be like, I'm OK.


09;32;49;28 - 09;32;47;03

Jon, Aaron & Deb

I'm OK, and I.


09;32;46;16 - 09;32;46;07

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Want to.


09;32;46;07 - 09;32;44;01

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Know what is. I remember.


09;32;43;06 - 09;32;39;11

Jon, Aaron & Deb

When my hair all fell out and it was a.


09;32;39;11 - 09;32;37;04

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Synchro competition that weekend.


09;32;37;04 - 09;32;35;25

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And it was still my first.


09;32;35;25 - 09;32;34;02

Jon, Aaron & Deb

Round. I had just had my first round of chemo.


09;32;33;19 - 09;32;31;09

Jon, Aaron & Deb

And I thought, OK.


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So I hear something and I'm like, OK, was like, you know.


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Several amount, but we're OK. So we went for that weekend.


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My doctor said, Yes, you can go.


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My levels are OK.


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He's like, absolutely.


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Clorox became my favorite.


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Friend because literally, we.


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Clorox everything. I remember Lindsay sending me for my birthday that year, Lysol and Clorox wipes, and I'm like, Yes, this.


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Is the best food ever.


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And we have gone. So Jeff, taking the.


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two older girls because they were the ones competing.


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To the event, he was going to come back and get us. And so I took a shower and literally, as I'm taking a.


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Shower, my hair all falls out.


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It's like. And I the girls, the.


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two older girls said, Mom.


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I don't want you to shave your head because I was just going.


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To say, we have to go, OK, hello.


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