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13. Just Today _ Deb Loewen _ Part 1

Updated: Nov 15, 2021



 

Today we met with Deb "The Debinator" Loewen. Our conversation explored her journey through motherhood and her 15 years of battling 3 separate rounds of cancer. Through the discussion we learn why her two favorite mantra's ("Just Today" & "Not Your Story") are powerful, and how they can apply to you. Highlights include: - How holding onto a good thing can spoil it. - When "Vision Casting", start with you. - The journey through parenthood. - The journey through not 1, not 2, but 3 forms of cancer. - Continuing to live fully, despite tragedy. - Declaring, "I Will Not Die!" - Communicating through the challenge. - Living for more than yourself. - Embodying death. Engaging those in tragedy - How normalcy can be medicinal. - No escape from reality, it must be faced. - Refusing to give into fear. - Be careful what you choose to accept about yourself. - Finding resolve when exhausted, tired & fatigued. - Just be there. - Choose carefully when to freak out. - Do something good. Did you find value in today’s conversation? SHARE IT!

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Jon, Aaron & Deb

Well, hello, everyone, this is Jon Mayo, Aaron Robinson.


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And Deb.


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nanoSIM, my first act of resilience one. If you're with us, the neo clan said that's a bit of a fun stretch as far as we know, a little bit crazy because you subjected yourself and then to your server, like last night, it's 8:00 or about to happen to you.


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The kiddos are down. It's like, Hey, by the way, you don't wake up early tomorrow and report to a session for the good theory. And she's like, Sure, that sounds great and sacred. We are. We are constantly keeping our eyes open because we really are very intrigued by these stories like, honestly, this is John and I were


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the only person at the table for this and nobody was listening. That would be OK with us because the stories we've been getting, just because we've been interested in that. It's amazing how and this is the encouragement for myself as well as other people out there, but their story is all around us.


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If we would just say something more about that. Yes. And you have those this morning, a gentleman, toss it to you. So you just miss so much beauty. If you don't know this stuff and look for it, you know.


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So I am excited to see where the conversation goes, and I'm sure we'll have our search again. And your opening remarks, any ideas that you just want to come out swinging.


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With just now. Guess whatever.


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You don't seem like someone who's had like a ton of difficulty that hasn't learned your face is smiling, cheering, and I love.


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It. I get that a.


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Lot, actually. I have a lot of people.


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They're like, Oh, Debbie.


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Here, let me just say, you know.


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Why do I do actually?


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And then, you know.


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When they asked me, like little pieces of land.


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Like, you don't know her? Well, actually.


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And then I share a snippet and then I.


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Really.


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Feel like I would never know.


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That they're like, awesome.


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So there's something cool about them. And then I said, jump in because. If everyone can tell you're going through hell, even though it's been hard, you're not living right, like you're sending the wrong message. You know, and we we talked a while back about how like you're in pain smile, you know, maybe too many good months there


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. You need to be honest and forthright with your inner circle and with yourself. Surely you will grow and have compassion. Human. That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying, though, is the whole world should not be able to know you're going through hell or that your life spent are that you should the heart of your life


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, the greater the opportunity to shine forthrightly. And I'm reminded of Victor Frankl. Absolutely nothing says that, which is to give off life. Light must endure. Burn it. And I think that's kind of a fun Segway into this going for it, right?


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So, yeah, because the assumption is that like, you're smiling, everything has been great, right? Maybe it is a life that has been forged in fire. Neat, right? And that's a great. Best way, I think to introduce kind of in is last night I put my wife decided to try it, dad, but to me, it opens you up


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and can do anything. Just pull this off tomorrow morning. All right. Take advantage of the opportunity. And she looks at me and essentially yells at me and the woman rate successfully raised home school for children, all while battling three forms of cancer successfully, and not to mention just the rest of the garden July 30.


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I think she's a good person to has, because why? I love you too. Thank you. Please help me while living in L.A.. Yeah, just a whole nother level. I'm so sorry. She was.


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For you.


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Yeah. So is that true? first of all? And you've already said yes.


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OK. Absolutely. Absolutely true. So I have four daughters. I love them all.


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Yeah, that's a lot of emotions and things in my household.


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And he and my husband would always say.


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He was in the estrogen.


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Ocean, and he does. But you know, he loves it.


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So you got.


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All of our girls are now grown. We've literally just had the graduation a couple of weeks ago for our youngest, who graduated from Mississippi State University graduation. So yeah.


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So you're an empty nester.


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Now. We are. And he knew new.


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Place to be, which is.


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Exciting, so I'm looking forward to that. So yeah, what.


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Does that feel like from a parent's standpoint? That's a lot of kids to raise as many, many years of being a mom. That doesn't stop. I mean, you're still you're still you're no longer a male. Yeah, you're right, but you're not like as a young caller, right?


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They're not physically there all the time, right? Was that.


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You know, it is. It is a weird feeling.


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In fact.


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When the two younger.


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Ones were like, you know, high school age.


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I saw.


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It coming.


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So I kept looking at them going, you.


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Know, I got four years.


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And that's it. And then.


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What am I going to do.


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Because you know, you got four and based on the age.


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Range, you.


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Know, that's 20.


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five years of my life that I've.


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Been homeschooling. Being a.


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Mom.


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You know, taking them to.


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Single practice.


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And everything else and going on competitions with them. And so I started seeing it coming.


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In like, what am I going to do with my life?


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What am I going to do with my life? And I was like.


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I have no idea. And I.


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Don't know. I don't know, and.


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It was really kind of scary, actually.


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Because I'm like, What do I become? I mean, I just spent 25.


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Years.


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Doing all this, pouring my life into.


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These people to help them.


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Be good human beings and be successful at life.


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And then like, I don't know.


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My hubby at one point said, So you know, do you want to foster Adobe? And I thought for a brief moment.


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When you know.


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And like, I don't know, I want to start.


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All over again.


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But I think there's a part.


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Of you that goes.


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Okay, that's all I know. That's the only thing I know. I mean, I I'm pretty good at it.


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I mean, seem to be pretty good at it.


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So maybe I should do that. So then I started to think, Well, maybe I just need to do.


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Stuff like that.


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Maybe I just need to find something to feel.


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That has to do with.


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Children.


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And, you know, helping moms or helpful.


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And and every time I kept looking at that arena, I kept going.


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I know. So it was.


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Almost like there was like, This is done. Hmm. And there's something.


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New.


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And last I'm trying to think about September, September of last year. My older brother, I actually worked for him right now.


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Inviting me to Arizona and.


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In Arizona, we went.


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Through this program.


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For it.


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You know, he's a.


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He's an attorney.


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So he's trying to expand his business. There's all these, you know, things that they're.


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Doing, you know.


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Help you understand your team.


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And all of those kinds of things.


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So we went to this.


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This is not really a synonym or what you call.


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It, but we went to this event.


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And it was just us. It was just our team. So it was me. This is where it's like just the team is a pretty small thing.


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And it was at that that the person that was leading.


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It said, OK. So, you know.


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I just want you to imagine that you now have in canvas in front of you.


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And you're going to create your future. And we were.


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Basically talking.


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Business at the time and you know, you're going.


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To create your future.


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And this is what you need to do. And I'm like.


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OK.


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So we're creating this future for this company that I'm working for. All right.


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And then he did an.


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Interesting thing and he goes.


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But we're not going to start.


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With a company or going to start with, you know what?


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And I'm like, OK? And he said, So I want you to take all of.


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The things that, you know, that are that you've been, that you've done.


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All of who.


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You think you are.


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And I want you to just put it over here because oftentimes we.


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Know who we think. We know we are yours, but I want you to imagine more anyway. OK.


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So it was in the midst of that that it was such.


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A.


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Cool thing because I literally saw this picture of, you know, this portrait and it was a beautiful painting. It had a house. I mean, to have thought, I.


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Mean, there was just all these pieces to this beautiful portrait. And I just hear this voice.


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You're done. This portrait.


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Is done. Hang it on the wall. I'm giving you a new one. Let's go.


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And I was like, OK, so I'm not even.


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Exactly sure what I was going to be on that new portrait. But it was just that moment of going.


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I don't have to keep trying to add to what.


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I've already done.


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I don't need to try and reinvent it.


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I'm not trying to do so.


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A second.


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Edition, it's I've got a brand new portrait.


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That I am going to be creating with my life. This one is beautiful, gorgeous. People can look at it and go, Wow, I admire it.


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That's awesome that you got more.


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That's a great picture. Yeah, the the the unfortunate analogy reminds me of like four chapters or really like you. Just you just found the piece to say, I know this first book's done, and now I'm going to write the sequel.


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Yes, right?


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The adventure continues in a new way. Right? The new version. Right. And in what I was listening to and thinking about with the question the journey you guys were walking through in the Adobe there strike in that industry, you know, because I was good at it.


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How often do we? Try to cling to something because it's familiar because we're good at it, because it's not like that in something that is good turns sour because it was supposed to be a season, not a life.


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Yes.


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And that's just what I'm hearing here. It's like, Hey, even something as in-depth as parenting, you know, or which is a 25 year heavy investment, right? Is a seat. It's supposed to be a chapter. It's supposed to be a segment of as the primary focus, not a lifelong expenditure is back.


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In the days when I was speaking, I would the people that I like kind of a think tank that is speaking with inevitably, what you do is you prepare something and it over, prepare it. And they would just sit and you would, and he would deliver it and you get feedback on it.


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And they would never be. They'd say, you overcooked it. You two have way too much on that. And there's that. There's a point when you kind of go, All right, walk away. There's enough salt on that. She did a good job, right?


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Just walk away and let it be. And like other than fire it, put it on the wall. Great job. It's beautiful. Now it's time to start something. Yeah, it's kind of a fun timing, too, because we're in the transition period.


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So yes, this was just over the last couple of months. She just graduated and ready to go. So it's like right now we're having a conversation on the tail end of one very free experience piece, and you're looking forward excited to see what the next.


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Yes. You know, let's put up this story is going to be, and you also reflect on like, well, how did the last 25 years how while asking the really exciting question and what are the next 25 years we're looking right now, like those are big, big forks in the roads, and it's so much better to be aware


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and like, imagine how much of a bummer it would be if you bound yourself to some commitment out of fear of change.


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Yes.


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And then you you weren't able to experience what the next 25 years could be.


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Yes.


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And then that that loss kind of poisons the positives. That's right. So how cool is it that we get to talk in this timing right between the two and the back kind of export with you? Yes. What is the last 25 years like you?


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What happened there? I love it. Use of such a vision. Going into this and as we get into a little bit, which we got you here, but I feel like maybe you've learned along the way like vision through things because like, I see you like even you thinking about this now, I can see that you're using hope


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in that. I know this is going to be great. Yes, but it's kind of off balance that you're kind of between us. That's like, right, am I going to be able to do this? But that's kind of, I think, a normal rhythm for people to do well in life.


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So they just get used to being OK. I'm I'm uncomfortable with this, but I'm going to learn it. I'm going to be right.


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Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.


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I know one of the big learning curves.


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Oh, my goodness.


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Was when I actually started.


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Working for my brother.


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I. I know nothing.


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About what I.


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Do now because I've been with him for six.


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Years, but nothing about law at all whatsoever.


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So he needed help and we were in a transition.


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Where we were at.


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At that time. And so I'm like.


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OK, so.


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I, you know, I'll come in.


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This could help you, you know, do.


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Things that I know.


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I can do for you. Like, you know, the phones I can, you know.


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You know, make appointments, do all.


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Those kinds of things.


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And as time went on, he.


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Kept giving me more and more stuff and he.


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Was like, OK. So Debbie, I need you to take.


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Jon, Aaron & Deb

This 'cause you want to see where you're giving are and you're really good at this. So.


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Jon, Aaron & Deb

You know, I want, you now know.


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Jon, Aaron & Deb

Document production.


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Jon, Aaron & Deb

What does that mean?


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Jon, Aaron & Deb

And then it's like, we have to.


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Jon, Aaron & Deb

Learn this, and I'm like, I don't even know what I'm doing. So I'm like, I will.


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Jon, Aaron & Deb

Literally.


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Jon, Aaron & Deb

Just like punching the numbers. I just like you fill out the form and I just.


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Jon, Aaron & Deb

Follow the form. I just.